Laura Debarra

All my friends listen, you see.

So like, I haven't told them yet.

So like when it comes out, I'll be getting the message being like...

It's the last time I told them they were all like, we're listening anyway.

So I'm going to do a little surprise.

Yeah, I think if you're not doing it from a consumption point of view, it's really nice.

If you're doing it for a future focus, I think there's a lot online where it's like put everything into black plastic bags and dump it at a charity shop store because there's a new season in Zara.

Whereas when you're doing it for something like you're saying, it's for your future, you're plugging into something, you're basically making space for a new change in your life.

It is actually so cathartic.

There's a book I always talk about.

It's Stuff Happens by an Irish author, Emma.

and it talks about why we like why we actually collect a lot of stuff and like why it's hard for us to let go of stuff and it's called like it's literally called stuff happens because stuff just happens so I think like right now you're thinking I never want to be in this position again but if something like that happens or a drawer fills up that you don't want or a party or a wardrobe you just have to reassess why you know why are you not getting to spend enough time on that section of your life that you thought you were purchasing for or why is this building up are you shopping during moments that's filling a void for something else but I think the main thing is not to be hard on ourselves

I think we see a lot of content, even I absorb a lot of content from creators.

I actually quite enjoy their personality, but their consumption is out of this world.

Like it's like a new coat every week.

And we start to think because of what they're not showing is like now I have 55 coats in my wardrobe behind me.

That is going to stress me out in four months or whatever.

So I think like the actual stuff of it all, the stuff of the outfits, the stuff of showing up, the stuff of the public presentation is rarely spoken about.

It's my dream to do a TV show on this.

It is my dream to twist the arms of influencers throughout Ireland and be like, let's chat about what happens when you have a job where you really believe in stuff that you're selling, but we don't get to talk because you're supposed to present as a really clean, uncluttered space.