Laura Dowling

And Deirdre Berry there, the CEO, had said she was at a CPR training just a couple of months ago and said, where's the female mannequin?

and there was a bit of jeering going on, we'll learn one is fine.

It's like, it's not fine because if someone's giving me CPR, I want to make sure they're doing it correct, regardless of whether I breast or not.

I don't know if you've heard that or find that.

So we've a long way to go.

For anybody, and I don't know if you've come across it, but Cree in the West created a beautiful but incredibly...

difficult body of work a campaign called her last search and it was stories of women who had experienced death from cardiovascular disease and they have their phone or laptop near them as they're dying and their last search is am i having a heart attack like incredible because to your point yeah the symptoms look incredibly different yeah

So therefore, universities or governments need to step in.

I wholeheartedly agree.

I think I'd shared what we know from the commission launching or reporting on it.

More funding has gone into male baldness than endometriosis.

And that's just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to women's health care.

We have at a European level, a menstrual strategy on route, a gender strategy, which includes it looks at more financial supports like pension and equal pay.

We're not near the races when it comes to health.

That's why we're working on this, what we call an own initiative.

So we work with folks like yourself, patients who are advocates, and then you collect all this data, you create this report, you hand it to the commission, say this is the direction of travel the parliament wants to go in around women's health care.

But like that, it doesn't change tomorrow.

But yet we know the amount of diseases or the lack of funding for something in 2026 should have been done 50 years ago when we joined the EU and then pressured on then national governments, rightly so, to produce or protect.

I mean, we have...

six menopausal clinics across the country.