Laura Kuenssberg

That is all in the rear view mirror.

But it's still extraordinary to me, the notion that somebody can have a huge majority in 2024 and less than two years later,

be on the verge of getting their P45.

I mean, it's just an extraordinary thing.

I should say that, look, none of this is certain.

No.

I mean, I'm only just beginning.

But I know we have other things.

Yvette Cooper has said, I don't know the exact words.

No, but you've said that that's sayable.

She is another person who has indicated to the Prime Minister that in her view, he should set out a departure.

And just to add to that, I think you have to kind of understand a bit also about how these conversations take place.

So sometimes these are sort of reported in a way like somebody marched in, they banged the desk and they said, you have to leave.

you know, these are all people who've worked together for years.

It's kind of not really the way it plays out.

I think the conversations are more like, you know, are you really sure that you would want to fight this?

Or the way another one is explained to me is like, look, basically, Keir Starmer is sort of leading the conversation and a kind of, well, what do you think is realistic?

What should I do?

What would you do?

You know, that kind of thing.