Laura Kuenssberg

And then one by one, your colleagues, your workmates come out and say, actually, you're a bit rubbish.

I don't think you're very good.

Oh, I don't think you're very good.

Oh, I don't think you're very good.

And a longer and longer list of people comes along and say, I think you're really bad.

You're going to have to go.

And then in the end, even some of your most loyal colleagues say, think it's time.

I think most of us would just want to hide under the duvet, right, with a giant bag of crisps.

And he has to tell the country what he's going to do to do it all in front of the cameras.

Yeah.

Right.

And look, I think if he does get in, which he obviously wants and is highly likely.

I was talking to somebody in a senior position in politics this morning and...

They were sort of suggesting it would be a massive like thought experiment on the country.

So Keir Starmer never promised to be fun and happy and make people feel good and go and like be pictured like hugging grannies and drinking pints and being with the people.

But he did tell people he would be competent and capable and he would get things done.

And that hasn't come to pass at all in the way that he hoped.

Andy Burnham, however, we know he's good at the first bit.

People know him by his first name.

He's very personal.