Laura Kuenssberg

You've got to signal that you could be friends with everybody, you know, because Lisa Nann is a well-known loyalist to Keir Starmer.

And yet at the same time, she's flashed the headlights at Al Khan, who's just left the government.

Yeah, and she represents Wigan.

And as you know, because you've been there this week, the Mayfield constituency is sort of on the outskirts of Wigan.

And she is, you know, she has historically been close to Andy Burnham.

What you certainly have, and she was demonstrating that today, is a lot of ministers...

thinking about their own self-interest of course politics and government is a team sport but also individual ambition is of course central to it and there are ministers who are open this week about oh i'm i'm off up to to make a field of course they're going to hand out some leaflets and knock on some doors but i'm you know i'm going to try and get a job or keep a job and there are definitely people thinking about their own positions in government now especially as it seems possible there is a change of person in the top and maybe a change of the

team below them not to interrupt but just to ask you more about that so allies of john healy are on the warpath again yes yes so as soon as we came off air i picked up my phone and at one minutes past 10 there's a message from an ally of john healy being frustrated and cross

But hasn't he already done his thing?

And when it happens, it happens around scandals.

Correct.

It doesn't happen around principle.

No, no, no, no, I'm not saying that.

It's read the code.

Yeah.

Let's go back to Makerfield.

There are other candidates standing.

The full list is on the website, including Robert Kenyon of Reform UK.

But it's to do with the timing.

Isn't it?