Laura Kuenssberg

who sort of admit and concede that there is a real political advantage to be looking like you're acting, to be empathising with the difficult situation that parents are in and just doing something.

Now, Downing Street, of course, deny this is really purely about that.

But the pressure has been building.

And I suppose the characterisation of people around Keir Starmer is actually that it's him meeting Keir,

bereaved parents that has really sort of hardened his instincts ahead of whatever he... Yeah, because he was against it.

Yeah.

Australia was test case number one and we could be a sort of the next petri dish because in countries across the capitals across the world everyone has been looking at Australia lots of other governments are considering what they do and if this is instituted quite quickly we could become the the next place that ministers are flying across to to do their research but also maybe think oh this didn't didn't quite work in in the UK maybe we'll avoid the way that Keir Starmer's team have done it

We will see.

We're on our way now with the question of the hour.

Did you watch the football?

Yes.

And did you have a message from anyone famous?

Shall we have a listen?

He's got the voice for it, hasn't he?

Sounds a bit hoarse.

He does, yeah.

Get him in the commentary box.

Well, look, hooray, we say to Scott's fans everywhere.

Hooray, we do.

Thank you very much for joining Newscast today.