Laura Loomer

They understand that there's an optics issue right now.

I don't think that this is an issue that's been created by the Israeli government, but it's just a reality.

I don't think that we're going to be able, it doesn't matter how much money the Israeli government throws at this, I don't think that we're going to be able to convince a large portion of the American voting population that our relationship with Israel is beneficial.

I believe that it is beneficial.

I mean, the math is pretty clear.

We got a $48 billion return on our investment for the aid that we give them, Steve, and we get enormous amounts of counterterrorism intelligence that is protecting Americans from the threat of global Islamic jihad.

However,

You can say this.

You can present all the graphs, all the evidence, show people the numbers.

There's a lot of people out there who truly do have Israel derangement syndrome.

And that's the argument that I was trying to make on your show last time I was on.

And so I think that they were appreciative and grateful.

And I found out there's actually a lot of Israelis who agree with me.

And so many more.

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Well, look, I think that there's no discounting the fact that there's a huge business and money-making opportunity right now for people pushing anti-Israel rhetoric.

As I said before, it's kind of like Trump derangement syndrome.

This concept of Israel derangement syndrome has people foaming at the mouth, Steve, over their anti-Israel sentiment.

You asked me why I think...

Right, but you asked me why I think the Axios would lie.