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Laure Wynants

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - hydroxy/chloroquinine, prognostic models and facemaskss

Another thing is that you need a lot of data.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - hydroxy/chloroquinine, prognostic models and facemaskss

So the case control...

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - hydroxy/chloroquinine, prognostic models and facemaskss

It could work, but you would need to have to adjust in a statistical way for the fact that you use case control sampling.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - hydroxy/chloroquinine, prognostic models and facemaskss

And then still you would need representative controls.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - hydroxy/chloroquinine, prognostic models and facemaskss

They cannot be controls from before the outbreak or from healthy people.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - hydroxy/chloroquinine, prognostic models and facemaskss

So it brings a lot of complex issues.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - hydroxy/chloroquinine, prognostic models and facemaskss

The fact that we don't have good quality data yet, or we didn't at the time that these models were developed,

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - hydroxy/chloroquinine, prognostic models and facemaskss

That's where a lot of the problems we saw have arisen.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - hydroxy/chloroquinine, prognostic models and facemaskss

Well, the first thing that struck us was that there's a lot of models out there already.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - hydroxy/chloroquinine, prognostic models and facemaskss

So we have 27 models identified.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - hydroxy/chloroquinine, prognostic models and facemaskss

And the most important finding, unfortunately, was that they were all at high risk of bias.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - hydroxy/chloroquinine, prognostic models and facemaskss

So that means that they are not ready to be applied in practice yet.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - hydroxy/chloroquinine, prognostic models and facemaskss

And that risk of bias comes from all sorts of problems, including non-consecutive patients or patient series that are not representative of the target population, and also the too complex modeling and too small data sets.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - hydroxy/chloroquinine, prognostic models and facemaskss

Another thing that should be stressed is the need for rigorous validation.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - hydroxy/chloroquinine, prognostic models and facemaskss

We realize that when you build models like this, it may not always be possible to validate them externally, but still then, if you have developed a model, you cannot just test it in the data set that was used to build it.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - hydroxy/chloroquinine, prognostic models and facemaskss

You need to bootstrap validation or cross-validation or leave center out cross-validation.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - hydroxy/chloroquinine, prognostic models and facemaskss

to have a good indication of how well this model would work if you would apply it in new patients.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - hydroxy/chloroquinine, prognostic models and facemaskss

With respect to validation, it's also important that researchers report their model.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - hydroxy/chloroquinine, prognostic models and facemaskss

So, for example, give the full equation behind the model or provide a software object.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - hydroxy/chloroquinine, prognostic models and facemaskss

And we have seen that 10 out of the 27 studies that we included didn't do that.