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Laurel van der Toorn

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1424 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Back To The Moon - January 23, 2026

Am I more likely to not be very productive and check Facebook while I'm at my desk?

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Back To The Moon - January 23, 2026

What is the effect of these slights at work?

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Back To The Moon - January 23, 2026

Yeah, so the only thing we could really measure, this is retail context, so you can't, it's not like they're selling stuff or things like that.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Back To The Moon - January 23, 2026

We have lots of different performance measures.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Back To The Moon - January 23, 2026

But you could look at their absenteeism, and you could also look at, because they had some control over how many hours they worked, did they pull it back?

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Back To The Moon - January 23, 2026

And the answer was absenteeism jumped up a lot.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Back To The Moon - January 23, 2026

The number was 50%, which sounds unbelievable, somebody told me, but...

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Back To The Moon - January 23, 2026

You know, if baseline absenteeism is one day and you move to two days, that's 100% increase, right?

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Back To The Moon - January 23, 2026

So it starts from a very low number.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Back To The Moon - January 23, 2026

So that's why it's a big percentage increase.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Back To The Moon - January 23, 2026

But absenteeism was up and people withdrawing hours, basically, I don't want to be around so much, right?

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Back To The Moon - January 23, 2026

So those are the two measures that we saw.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Back To The Moon - January 23, 2026

And I think the interesting question about this, so we asked the company, you know, the employer, why would these cards be late?

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Back To The Moon - January 23, 2026

And they said, well, it's not on purpose.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Back To The Moon - January 23, 2026

The boss probably just got busy or forgot, which makes it seem really trivial and forgiving, right?

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Back To The Moon - January 23, 2026

Forgivable.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Back To The Moon - January 23, 2026

Yeah, no malicious intent.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Back To The Moon - January 23, 2026

No malicious intent.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Back To The Moon - January 23, 2026

However, if you're the employee...

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Back To The Moon - January 23, 2026

And you're thinking about this and you're thinking, how much intent do you need to just hand me my freaking card?