Laurence Blair

In about a year's time, in November 2025, we're going to have this COP conference, the World Climate Conference in Belém, that Amazonian city. And Brazil's President Lula has said that this is a chance for the world to really learn from the Amazon's longest standing inhabitants, that humans can live with and within the rainforest, in their millions, and live well without destroying it.

In about a year's time, in November 2025, we're going to have this COP conference, the World Climate Conference in Belém, that Amazonian city. And Brazil's President Lula has said that this is a chance for the world to really learn from the Amazon's longest standing inhabitants, that humans can live with and within the rainforest, in their millions, and live well without destroying it.

In about a year's time, in November 2025, we're going to have this COP conference, the World Climate Conference in Belém, that Amazonian city. And Brazil's President Lula has said that this is a chance for the world to really learn from the Amazon's longest standing inhabitants, that humans can live with and within the rainforest, in their millions, and live well without destroying it.

It's called Patria, Lost Countries of South America. It's indeed out today in all the bookshops and on e-readers. And it's an alternative history of South America, a journey through centuries of slightly forgotten or lesser known histories and really trying to put South America back on the map of global history and overturn some of these tropes about guns, germs and steel, which we've all heard.

It's called Patria, Lost Countries of South America. It's indeed out today in all the bookshops and on e-readers. And it's an alternative history of South America, a journey through centuries of slightly forgotten or lesser known histories and really trying to put South America back on the map of global history and overturn some of these tropes about guns, germs and steel, which we've all heard.

It's called Patria, Lost Countries of South America. It's indeed out today in all the bookshops and on e-readers. And it's an alternative history of South America, a journey through centuries of slightly forgotten or lesser known histories and really trying to put South America back on the map of global history and overturn some of these tropes about guns, germs and steel, which we've all heard.

And the Amazon is such a big part of that.

And the Amazon is such a big part of that.

And the Amazon is such a big part of that.

Thanks for having me. I had a great time.

Thanks for having me. I had a great time.

Thanks for having me. I had a great time.