Lawrence Wright

So the internet was young at that point, but it was very useful, and I could go through and find all these court cases of people who were suing their parents for abuse or their therapists or, you know, just there were hundreds. And there was one case in which a person was convicted of satanic abuse. And he had confessed. And his name was Paul Ingram. He was a deputy sheriff in Olympia, Washington.

And I thought, well, if there's anything to this, that'll be it. So I went to Olympia. And what I found was that... Paul's had a family of four and two girls and two boys. And the girls, one of them, Erica, had made the initial outcry. And... And it got into the sheriff's apartment where Paul was a deputy. And so the assistant sheriff arrested him.

And I thought, well, if there's anything to this, that'll be it. So I went to Olympia. And what I found was that... Paul's had a family of four and two girls and two boys. And the girls, one of them, Erica, had made the initial outcry. And... And it got into the sheriff's apartment where Paul was a deputy. And so the assistant sheriff arrested him.

And I thought, well, if there's anything to this, that'll be it. So I went to Olympia. And what I found was that... Paul's had a family of four and two girls and two boys. And the girls, one of them, Erica, had made the initial outcry. And... And it got into the sheriff's apartment where Paul was a deputy. And so the assistant sheriff arrested him.

And they brought in his preacher, an evangelical preacher, who told Paul that God will not let a false memory come into your brain. And then they brought in a psychiatrist who hypnotized him. And Paul had said, I know my girls wouldn't lie, but I don't remember it. So to help him remember, the psychiatrist and the preacher sat there with the deputy and elicited these memories of satanic crimes.

And they brought in his preacher, an evangelical preacher, who told Paul that God will not let a false memory come into your brain. And then they brought in a psychiatrist who hypnotized him. And Paul had said, I know my girls wouldn't lie, but I don't remember it. So to help him remember, the psychiatrist and the preacher sat there with the deputy and elicited these memories of satanic crimes.

And they brought in his preacher, an evangelical preacher, who told Paul that God will not let a false memory come into your brain. And then they brought in a psychiatrist who hypnotized him. And Paul had said, I know my girls wouldn't lie, but I don't remember it. So to help him remember, the psychiatrist and the preacher sat there with the deputy and elicited these memories of satanic crimes.

And in the church that they were a part of, it was called the Church of the Four Square Gospel, there was a lot of gossip. You can imagine that something like this was just on everybody's mind. And the preacher had access to the deputies and so on, so there was information coming out. And so that would generate new memories on the part of the daughters.

And in the church that they were a part of, it was called the Church of the Four Square Gospel, there was a lot of gossip. You can imagine that something like this was just on everybody's mind. And the preacher had access to the deputies and so on, so there was information coming out. And so that would generate new memories on the part of the daughters.

And in the church that they were a part of, it was called the Church of the Four Square Gospel, there was a lot of gossip. You can imagine that something like this was just on everybody's mind. And the preacher had access to the deputies and so on, so there was information coming out. And so that would generate new memories on the part of the daughters.

And then it would be reported back to Paul immediately. you know, what they were saying, and he would come up with memories, but they never had the same memory. There were all these disparate memories, and, you know, girls were talking about these satanic fires, you know, they'd have these campfires, you know, and the girls were...

And then it would be reported back to Paul immediately. you know, what they were saying, and he would come up with memories, but they never had the same memory. There were all these disparate memories, and, you know, girls were talking about these satanic fires, you know, they'd have these campfires, you know, and the girls were...

And then it would be reported back to Paul immediately. you know, what they were saying, and he would come up with memories, but they never had the same memory. There were all these disparate memories, and, you know, girls were talking about these satanic fires, you know, they'd have these campfires, you know, and the girls were...

impregnated and then later nailed to a table and had the fetus withdrawn from them, you know, and their neighbors had committed homicide and, you know, and it was... Bizarro stuff. But the cops took it seriously. They had helicopters flying around looking for where the fires might have been, digging up the yard. And I asked the undersheriff, did you find any bones? Well, there was, yes.

impregnated and then later nailed to a table and had the fetus withdrawn from them, you know, and their neighbors had committed homicide and, you know, and it was... Bizarro stuff. But the cops took it seriously. They had helicopters flying around looking for where the fires might have been, digging up the yard. And I asked the undersheriff, did you find any bones? Well, there was, yes.

impregnated and then later nailed to a table and had the fetus withdrawn from them, you know, and their neighbors had committed homicide and, you know, and it was... Bizarro stuff. But the cops took it seriously. They had helicopters flying around looking for where the fires might have been, digging up the yard. And I asked the undersheriff, did you find any bones? Well, there was, yes.

really what was it well it was an elk bone obviously offering this as evidence right and uh so uh but the thing was that paul confessed and he felt like he must have done this and you know when uh the the the questioning was so bizarre because So Paul, you know, he had two friends that were also implicated by the girls. So when Ray or Jim, you know, would come in, what did they do?

really what was it well it was an elk bone obviously offering this as evidence right and uh so uh but the thing was that paul confessed and he felt like he must have done this and you know when uh the the the questioning was so bizarre because So Paul, you know, he had two friends that were also implicated by the girls. So when Ray or Jim, you know, would come in, what did they do?

really what was it well it was an elk bone obviously offering this as evidence right and uh so uh but the thing was that paul confessed and he felt like he must have done this and you know when uh the the the questioning was so bizarre because So Paul, you know, he had two friends that were also implicated by the girls. So when Ray or Jim, you know, would come in, what did they do?

Well, I think they must have raped my wife. Uh, okay. Uh, and, and then, uh, what did you do? Uh, well, I would have gone back to work and it was, it was all in this conditional tense. It must have been this way. I would have done this. He never said I did it in, but he confessed, uh, So he went to prison.