Leah Litman

no more Kennedys, because he did it too. And he had initially voted to overrule Roe and then changed his mind.

no more Kennedys, because he did it too. And he had initially voted to overrule Roe and then changed his mind.

no more Kennedys, because he did it too. And he had initially voted to overrule Roe and then changed his mind.

Yeah. And then, of course, they didn't they didn't scream about Justice O'Connor because she's a woman. And so, of course, she couldn't be counted on to do the right thing.

Yeah. And then, of course, they didn't they didn't scream about Justice O'Connor because she's a woman. And so, of course, she couldn't be counted on to do the right thing.

Yeah. And then, of course, they didn't they didn't scream about Justice O'Connor because she's a woman. And so, of course, she couldn't be counted on to do the right thing.

Yeah, so obviously I was not there during Planned Parenthood versus Casey. But I think he has real views about what the Supreme Court is for and is very sold on a perception of the court as this independent, neutral arbiter in certain ways. And so the pressure, the political movement to overrule Roe versus Wade, I think...

Yeah, so obviously I was not there during Planned Parenthood versus Casey. But I think he has real views about what the Supreme Court is for and is very sold on a perception of the court as this independent, neutral arbiter in certain ways. And so the pressure, the political movement to overrule Roe versus Wade, I think...

Yeah, so obviously I was not there during Planned Parenthood versus Casey. But I think he has real views about what the Supreme Court is for and is very sold on a perception of the court as this independent, neutral arbiter in certain ways. And so the pressure, the political movement to overrule Roe versus Wade, I think...

made him uncomfortable because this is not a man who was at all, right, like pro-choice or sympathetic to the arguments, you know, about Roe versus Wade. I mean, he wrote anti-abortion shibboleths into the U.S. reports when he said without evidence, he conceded there's no data to back this up. He said, of course, like most women come to regret their abortions.

made him uncomfortable because this is not a man who was at all, right, like pro-choice or sympathetic to the arguments, you know, about Roe versus Wade. I mean, he wrote anti-abortion shibboleths into the U.S. reports when he said without evidence, he conceded there's no data to back this up. He said, of course, like most women come to regret their abortions.

made him uncomfortable because this is not a man who was at all, right, like pro-choice or sympathetic to the arguments, you know, about Roe versus Wade. I mean, he wrote anti-abortion shibboleths into the U.S. reports when he said without evidence, he conceded there's no data to back this up. He said, of course, like most women come to regret their abortions.

So it was really his sense of the court and his desire for it to be independent of politics that probably pushed him and Casey.

So it was really his sense of the court and his desire for it to be independent of politics that probably pushed him and Casey.

So it was really his sense of the court and his desire for it to be independent of politics that probably pushed him and Casey.

It sounds like a fiction book to me.

It sounds like a fiction book to me.

It sounds like a fiction book to me.

Man, you're really going to make me pick one. OK, I'm going to pick two and I'm going to call it a tie.

Man, you're really going to make me pick one. OK, I'm going to pick two and I'm going to call it a tie.