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Lee Cronin

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Lex Fridman Podcast
#404 โ€“ Lee Cronin: Controversial Nature Paper on Evolution of Life and Universe

I'm very frustrated by the way that we're AI dooming right now. And people are bestowing some kind of magic. Now, let's go back a bit. So you said AGI. Are we far away from AGI? Yes. I do not think we're going to get to AGI anytime soon. I've seen no evidence of it. And the AI doom scenario is nonsensical in the extreme. And the reason why I think it's nonsensical, but it's not...

Lex Fridman Podcast
#404 โ€“ Lee Cronin: Controversial Nature Paper on Evolution of Life and Universe

And I don't think there isn't things we should do and be very worried about, right? I mean, there are things we need to worry about right now, what AI are doing, whether it's fake data, fake users, right? I want authentic people, authentic data. I don't want everything to be faked. And I think it's a really big problem. And I absolutely want to go on the record to say I really worry about that.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#404 โ€“ Lee Cronin: Controversial Nature Paper on Evolution of Life and Universe

And I don't think there isn't things we should do and be very worried about, right? I mean, there are things we need to worry about right now, what AI are doing, whether it's fake data, fake users, right? I want authentic people, authentic data. I don't want everything to be faked. And I think it's a really big problem. And I absolutely want to go on the record to say I really worry about that.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#404 โ€“ Lee Cronin: Controversial Nature Paper on Evolution of Life and Universe

And I don't think there isn't things we should do and be very worried about, right? I mean, there are things we need to worry about right now, what AI are doing, whether it's fake data, fake users, right? I want authentic people, authentic data. I don't want everything to be faked. And I think it's a really big problem. And I absolutely want to go on the record to say I really worry about that.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#404 โ€“ Lee Cronin: Controversial Nature Paper on Evolution of Life and Universe

What I'm not worried about is that some fictitious entity is going to turn us all to paperclips or detonate nuclear bombs. I don't know. Maybe, I don't know, anything you can't think of. Why is this? I'll take a very simple series of logical arguments. The AI doomers do not have the correct epistemology. They do not understand what knowledge is.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#404 โ€“ Lee Cronin: Controversial Nature Paper on Evolution of Life and Universe

What I'm not worried about is that some fictitious entity is going to turn us all to paperclips or detonate nuclear bombs. I don't know. Maybe, I don't know, anything you can't think of. Why is this? I'll take a very simple series of logical arguments. The AI doomers do not have the correct epistemology. They do not understand what knowledge is.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#404 โ€“ Lee Cronin: Controversial Nature Paper on Evolution of Life and Universe

What I'm not worried about is that some fictitious entity is going to turn us all to paperclips or detonate nuclear bombs. I don't know. Maybe, I don't know, anything you can't think of. Why is this? I'll take a very simple series of logical arguments. The AI doomers do not have the correct epistemology. They do not understand what knowledge is.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#404 โ€“ Lee Cronin: Controversial Nature Paper on Evolution of Life and Universe

And until we understand what knowledge is, they're not going to get anywhere because they're applying things falsely. So let me give you a very simple argument. People talk about the probability, P-Doom AI. We can work out the probability of an asteroid hitting the planet. Why? Because it's happened before. We know the mechanism.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#404 โ€“ Lee Cronin: Controversial Nature Paper on Evolution of Life and Universe

And until we understand what knowledge is, they're not going to get anywhere because they're applying things falsely. So let me give you a very simple argument. People talk about the probability, P-Doom AI. We can work out the probability of an asteroid hitting the planet. Why? Because it's happened before. We know the mechanism.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#404 โ€“ Lee Cronin: Controversial Nature Paper on Evolution of Life and Universe

And until we understand what knowledge is, they're not going to get anywhere because they're applying things falsely. So let me give you a very simple argument. People talk about the probability, P-Doom AI. We can work out the probability of an asteroid hitting the planet. Why? Because it's happened before. We know the mechanism.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#404 โ€“ Lee Cronin: Controversial Nature Paper on Evolution of Life and Universe

We know that there's a gravity whirl or that space-time is bent and stuff falls in. We don't know the probability of AGI because we have no mechanism. So let me give you another one, which is like, I'm really worried about AG. What's AG? AG is anti-gravity. One day we could wake up and anti-gravity is discovered. We're all going to die. The atmosphere is going to float away.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#404 โ€“ Lee Cronin: Controversial Nature Paper on Evolution of Life and Universe

We know that there's a gravity whirl or that space-time is bent and stuff falls in. We don't know the probability of AGI because we have no mechanism. So let me give you another one, which is like, I'm really worried about AG. What's AG? AG is anti-gravity. One day we could wake up and anti-gravity is discovered. We're all going to die. The atmosphere is going to float away.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#404 โ€“ Lee Cronin: Controversial Nature Paper on Evolution of Life and Universe

We know that there's a gravity whirl or that space-time is bent and stuff falls in. We don't know the probability of AGI because we have no mechanism. So let me give you another one, which is like, I'm really worried about AG. What's AG? AG is anti-gravity. One day we could wake up and anti-gravity is discovered. We're all going to die. The atmosphere is going to float away.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#404 โ€“ Lee Cronin: Controversial Nature Paper on Evolution of Life and Universe

We're going to float away. We're all doomed. What is the probability of AG? We don't know because there's no mechanism for AG. Do we worry about it? No. And I don't understand the current...

Lex Fridman Podcast
#404 โ€“ Lee Cronin: Controversial Nature Paper on Evolution of Life and Universe

We're going to float away. We're all doomed. What is the probability of AG? We don't know because there's no mechanism for AG. Do we worry about it? No. And I don't understand the current...

Lex Fridman Podcast
#404 โ€“ Lee Cronin: Controversial Nature Paper on Evolution of Life and Universe

We're going to float away. We're all doomed. What is the probability of AG? We don't know because there's no mechanism for AG. Do we worry about it? No. And I don't understand the current...

Lex Fridman Podcast
#404 โ€“ Lee Cronin: Controversial Nature Paper on Evolution of Life and Universe

um reason for these for the for certain people in certain areas to be generating this nonsense i think they're not doing it maliciously i think we're observing the emergence of new religions how religions come because religions are about kind of some control so you've got the optimist saying ai is going to cure us all and ai is going to kill us all what's the reality Well, we don't have AI.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#404 โ€“ Lee Cronin: Controversial Nature Paper on Evolution of Life and Universe

um reason for these for the for certain people in certain areas to be generating this nonsense i think they're not doing it maliciously i think we're observing the emergence of new religions how religions come because religions are about kind of some control so you've got the optimist saying ai is going to cure us all and ai is going to kill us all what's the reality Well, we don't have AI.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#404 โ€“ Lee Cronin: Controversial Nature Paper on Evolution of Life and Universe

um reason for these for the for certain people in certain areas to be generating this nonsense i think they're not doing it maliciously i think we're observing the emergence of new religions how religions come because religions are about kind of some control so you've got the optimist saying ai is going to cure us all and ai is going to kill us all what's the reality Well, we don't have AI.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#404 โ€“ Lee Cronin: Controversial Nature Paper on Evolution of Life and Universe

We have really powerful machine learning tools, and they will allow us to do interesting things. And we need to be careful about how we use those tools in terms of manipulating human beings and faking stuff, right? Right.