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Lee Cronin

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Lex Fridman Podcast
#404 โ€“ Lee Cronin: Controversial Nature Paper on Evolution of Life and Universe

Well, I think it's kind of they're making leaps that they're trapped in a virtual reality that isn't reality.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#404 โ€“ Lee Cronin: Controversial Nature Paper on Evolution of Life and Universe

I think that that's right, the unintended consequences we have to think about, and that I fully agree with. But let's go back a bit. Sentience, I mean, again, I'm far away from my comfort zone and all this stuff, but hey, let's talk about it because I give myself a qualification.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#404 โ€“ Lee Cronin: Controversial Nature Paper on Evolution of Life and Universe

I think that that's right, the unintended consequences we have to think about, and that I fully agree with. But let's go back a bit. Sentience, I mean, again, I'm far away from my comfort zone and all this stuff, but hey, let's talk about it because I give myself a qualification.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#404 โ€“ Lee Cronin: Controversial Nature Paper on Evolution of Life and Universe

I think that that's right, the unintended consequences we have to think about, and that I fully agree with. But let's go back a bit. Sentience, I mean, again, I'm far away from my comfort zone and all this stuff, but hey, let's talk about it because I give myself a qualification.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#404 โ€“ Lee Cronin: Controversial Nature Paper on Evolution of Life and Universe

I think the paperclip scenario is just such a poor one because let's think about how that would happen. And also, let's think about we are being so... unrealistic about how much of the Earth's surface we have commandeered. You know, for paperclip manufacturing to really happen, I mean, do the math. It's like, it's not going to happen. There's not enough energy, there's not enough resource.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#404 โ€“ Lee Cronin: Controversial Nature Paper on Evolution of Life and Universe

I think the paperclip scenario is just such a poor one because let's think about how that would happen. And also, let's think about we are being so... unrealistic about how much of the Earth's surface we have commandeered. You know, for paperclip manufacturing to really happen, I mean, do the math. It's like, it's not going to happen. There's not enough energy, there's not enough resource.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#404 โ€“ Lee Cronin: Controversial Nature Paper on Evolution of Life and Universe

I think the paperclip scenario is just such a poor one because let's think about how that would happen. And also, let's think about we are being so... unrealistic about how much of the Earth's surface we have commandeered. You know, for paperclip manufacturing to really happen, I mean, do the math. It's like, it's not going to happen. There's not enough energy, there's not enough resource.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#404 โ€“ Lee Cronin: Controversial Nature Paper on Evolution of Life and Universe

Where is it all going to come from? I think that what happens in evolution is really... why is a killer virus not killed all life on Earth? Well, what happens is, sure, super killer viruses that kill the ribosome have emerged. But you know what happens? They nuke a small space because they can't propagate. They all die. So there's this interplay between evolution and propagation, right? And death.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#404 โ€“ Lee Cronin: Controversial Nature Paper on Evolution of Life and Universe

Where is it all going to come from? I think that what happens in evolution is really... why is a killer virus not killed all life on Earth? Well, what happens is, sure, super killer viruses that kill the ribosome have emerged. But you know what happens? They nuke a small space because they can't propagate. They all die. So there's this interplay between evolution and propagation, right? And death.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#404 โ€“ Lee Cronin: Controversial Nature Paper on Evolution of Life and Universe

Where is it all going to come from? I think that what happens in evolution is really... why is a killer virus not killed all life on Earth? Well, what happens is, sure, super killer viruses that kill the ribosome have emerged. But you know what happens? They nuke a small space because they can't propagate. They all die. So there's this interplay between evolution and propagation, right? And death.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#404 โ€“ Lee Cronin: Controversial Nature Paper on Evolution of Life and Universe

I think the nice thing about where we are, I would love for the AI crowd to take a leaf out of the book of the bio warfare, chemical warfare crowd. I mean, not love, because actually people have been killed with chemical weapons in the First and Second World War, and bioweapons have been made, and we can argue about COVID-19 and all this stuff. Let's not go there just now.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#404 โ€“ Lee Cronin: Controversial Nature Paper on Evolution of Life and Universe

I think the nice thing about where we are, I would love for the AI crowd to take a leaf out of the book of the bio warfare, chemical warfare crowd. I mean, not love, because actually people have been killed with chemical weapons in the First and Second World War, and bioweapons have been made, and we can argue about COVID-19 and all this stuff. Let's not go there just now.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#404 โ€“ Lee Cronin: Controversial Nature Paper on Evolution of Life and Universe

I think the nice thing about where we are, I would love for the AI crowd to take a leaf out of the book of the bio warfare, chemical warfare crowd. I mean, not love, because actually people have been killed with chemical weapons in the First and Second World War, and bioweapons have been made, and we can argue about COVID-19 and all this stuff. Let's not go there just now.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#404 โ€“ Lee Cronin: Controversial Nature Paper on Evolution of Life and Universe

But I think there is a consensus that some certain things are bad and we shouldn't do them, right? And sure, it would be possible for a bad actor to engineer something bad, but the damage would be, we would see it coming, and we would be able to do something about it.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#404 โ€“ Lee Cronin: Controversial Nature Paper on Evolution of Life and Universe

But I think there is a consensus that some certain things are bad and we shouldn't do them, right? And sure, it would be possible for a bad actor to engineer something bad, but the damage would be, we would see it coming, and we would be able to do something about it.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#404 โ€“ Lee Cronin: Controversial Nature Paper on Evolution of Life and Universe

But I think there is a consensus that some certain things are bad and we shouldn't do them, right? And sure, it would be possible for a bad actor to engineer something bad, but the damage would be, we would see it coming, and we would be able to do something about it.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#404 โ€“ Lee Cronin: Controversial Nature Paper on Evolution of Life and Universe

Now, I guess what I'm trying to say is when people talk about Doom and they just, when you ask them for the mechanism, they just say, you know, they just make something up. I mean, in this case, I'm with Jan LeCun. I think he put out a very good point about trying to regulate jet engines before we've even invented them. Yeah. And I think that's what I'm saying.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#404 โ€“ Lee Cronin: Controversial Nature Paper on Evolution of Life and Universe

Now, I guess what I'm trying to say is when people talk about Doom and they just, when you ask them for the mechanism, they just say, you know, they just make something up. I mean, in this case, I'm with Jan LeCun. I think he put out a very good point about trying to regulate jet engines before we've even invented them. Yeah. And I think that's what I'm saying.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#404 โ€“ Lee Cronin: Controversial Nature Paper on Evolution of Life and Universe

Now, I guess what I'm trying to say is when people talk about Doom and they just, when you ask them for the mechanism, they just say, you know, they just make something up. I mean, in this case, I'm with Jan LeCun. I think he put out a very good point about trying to regulate jet engines before we've even invented them. Yeah. And I think that's what I'm saying.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#404 โ€“ Lee Cronin: Controversial Nature Paper on Evolution of Life and Universe

I'm not saying we should, I just don't understand why these guys are going around making, literally making stuff up about us all dying.