Lee Edward Smith

I mean, business and, you know, a little fun too.

And I would say when I met Kat, I was like, because I've been working as an entertainment entrepreneur from the age of 11.

I actually was a professional magician.

I always tell people, sometimes it goes the other way, so you're lucky.

Yeah, yeah.

That would have been awesome.

That would have been a good reel.

It's now a PG-13 show.

Yeah, yeah, seriously.

But I started with magic and, you know, really for me, entertainment, you know, entertainment as an entrepreneur has been something I've been doing since 10 or 11.

So by the time I was 13, I was doing magic shows in the Poconos.

There was one from Brooklyn, but there was one kid in seventh grade who was like also doing carpentry.

and you're like, dude, you're on my turf.

But we created this two-man comedy magic show, and by 16, we were getting hired across the country doing magic conventions, which are like geeky white guys doing magic tricks kind of.

But it was fun.

It was fun back then in the 90s.

And we would go do those magic shows, and then I went to George Mason on a public speaking scholarship, and here we are.

We've been on 600 college campuses.

We have seven shows still touring the country.

So a lot of entertainment, a lot of entrepreneurship.