Lee Sales

It was kind of about...

how these weird artificial bands get made and how difficult it was for them to get to a point where they would break through.

And then it was about these really quite significant internal stresses around who was the content creator,

the bitterness and profiles of all of the people who were like, oh, I'm just the dancer or I'm just the singer, including Robbie Williams and the split and then blah, blah, blah.

And then I went and watched the Robbie Williams biopic.

Yeah.

So I've been on a full weird Take That arc, which is unusual because I've never been a Take That fan and I probably recognise about two songs, but I did –

I did pay attention to these visual sequences and I really surprised myself because I had read about the Robbie Williams biopic and I had read that he appears as a monkey throughout.

That's what's put me off watching it.

Right, and that's what put me off watching it too because I thought, well, that just sounds stupid.

What are you on?

And the answer is pretty much everything all the time since he was about 18.

And then when I watched it, do you know what?

At the end I went, that's a really smart idea.

That worked.

Wow.

So, okay, why did it work?

And, look, just keep in mind that this may be a result of my expectations being really in the basement because I might – this sounds like a stupid idea.

You've got to – you've appeared as a CGI monkey and nobody's going, this kid's a monkey.

It's just – it's weird.