Lee

So look for the hidden things.

When someone carries a bill for you and they're acting like the hero and they say, oh, well, it got killed in committee.

Well, those backroom deals and committees are the most dangerous ones.

You'd have to hold people's feet to the fire.

There are all kinds of deals made in the backrooms and you see it when you're there at the Capitol until the wee hours.

But most importantly,

It's important to keep an open dialogue with your representative staff, and it's very important to go to Austin.

Even if you're not testifying, you can go almost more important than that, more effective.

Go door to door.

I recommend calling and making appointments.

If they won't make an appointment, you can still go.

You can call and make an appointment and say, I want to see what time can I get in, and go from office to office to office, and that's what I do, just having conversations.

Well, that's kind of what we do.

I mean, that's what's effective, right?

That's what we did for the Red Flag Law bill.

That's what we did for the Texas Women's Privacy Act bill.

And so we had success with those.

Well, the interesting thing about No Kings is this is coming from a party who usurped their primary process to appoint a queen.

I think she identifies as female.

That is what's the hypocrisy of it.