Lei Yang

And to like the narrative of...

about Ethereum wasting the last four or five years, quote unquote, chase the Layer 2 roadmap.

I don't think that's valid because first one has to consider, I think, the origin of the Layer 2 roadmap.

I think it's really just because I think back in 2018, the hot topic about scaling is sharding, right?

Remember that?

And then a natural evolution of sharding is layer twos because you can basically regard each shard as a layer two today.

And I think the original idea is that Ethereum would run and operate all the shards together.

And I think then the question comes, hey, why does it have to be Ethereum?

Why don't we just delegate it to a few teams so that we get some diversity, some computation, some experimentation?

I think experimentation is one of the most interesting things that came out of the Layer 2 roadmap.

Because with the roadmap, I think Ethereum started to focus on really building the substrate that can support experimentation.

I don't think...

many people in the community kind of realized how general purpose the Ethereum infrastructure has become in terms of supporting consensus-less

which are Layer 2s, the DA, the dank sharding, the portal dank sharding, and all the upgrades and the blobs, I think they all are critical in terms of supporting the Layer 2 infrastructure.

So now that the infrastructure is done, I think it's actually fine that the Layer 2 is kind of back at scaling itself, which I think is totally logical because you also need a good coordination Layer 2 to synchronize all the Layer 2s to serve as the hub.

But I really don't think like the energy we spend on this substrate is wasted or something because I think mega is only possible because Ethereum was chasing this layer two centric roadmap for a few years.

I'm extremely grateful that it did so so that we can have this interesting experiment we're working with and as well as many other experiments I think that are going to come.

So yeah, I don't think it's a sunken coaster in any sense.

It's actually pretty good.

Yeah, of course.