Leigh Ann Caldwell

She won governor, but they're not like, they're not DS decisions.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

There's obviously I mean, you are just expressing the frustration with half the Democratic caucus who who is thinking the exact same thing.

But Gillibrand is an ally of Schumer's.

She's a loyal soldier.

And it's really Schumer who's running it, obviously.

Yeah, it actually is.

I hadn't even thought about that.

But it is, I think, because my brain just always goes to Schumer.

I don't even didn't even realize it.

Yeah, they didn't.

Yeah, I think that...

He is being given a very long runway, but I will also say, I feel like last week with the whole healthcare debacle on the Republican side, that Democrats, that that could be the week that Hakeem Jeffries became Speaker of the House.

I think that maybe you can point, and we'll obviously see what happens in the next 10 months, but I feel like that was a really critical week for Jeffries.

It

His long shot messaging bill of a three year extension of the Obamacare subsidies, which no one had thought had any chance, got discharged, now has support from Republicans because the Republicans messed it up so much.

And, you know, throughout this process, some Democrats were telling me outside Democrats were telling me that Jeffries had not been given enough credit for the strategy.

And I feel like they or they feel like they're validated now.