Leigh Ann Caldwell

But there is actually some...

I think overly optimistic belief that there are some chances for some bipartisan agreement in January.

Yeah.

And I think that they, you know, maybe they go there, like I said, it's, it's, it's early.

They definitely do not want people to start any of their members to start threatening a shutdown right now, because then they look like arsonists.

And, and so, you know, obviously, it's very much

It's very much a possibility.

I personally, I don't think that they're going to do it.

I think that they're too risk averse to do it.

Yeah, no, you're going to give the money to the people instead, but you still have to pay the insurance companies.

I know.

I was actually surprised, too, because there is the populist strain in the Republican Party that Trump purportedly believes in, which we all know he doesn't, that that thinks that these Obamacare subsidies need to be extended, at least for now, until there's another plan or whatever.

You know, Josh Hawley is one of those people who's really been pushing it.

And I thought that he was going to give in to, but he did not.

Yeah, no, I was going to say, but I think that I'm only speculating here.

But, you know, I think that a lot of it has to do with the fact that it is Obamacare, that there is a lot of disdain for anything Biden.

I mean, his whole presidency so far has been undoing what Biden did.

And he obviously hates Barack Obama.

And so not wanting to prop up something that his predecessor did and like creating this health care system.

And that that is a big that's a big issue on the Hill, too.