Leila Fadel

So making light of this really important question of whether or not the Trump administration defied the court order, what did the Trump administration say about that?

And how does this test of Trump's power fit with other moves the administration's making?

And how does this test of Trump's power fit with other moves the administration's making?

And how does this test of Trump's power fit with other moves the administration's making?

Thanks, Franco.

Thanks, Franco.

Thanks, Franco.

That's White House correspondent Franco Ordonez. The U.S. Institute of Peace was the scene of a hostile takeover by the Department of Government Efficiency.

That's White House correspondent Franco Ordonez. The U.S. Institute of Peace was the scene of a hostile takeover by the Department of Government Efficiency.

That's White House correspondent Franco Ordonez. The U.S. Institute of Peace was the scene of a hostile takeover by the Department of Government Efficiency.

NPR's Michelle Kellerman spoke to him on the steps of the Institute just across from the State Department, and she joins us now. Good morning, Michelle. Good morning, Lola. So, Michelle, you were right there once Doge forced their way into the building. What did you see?

NPR's Michelle Kellerman spoke to him on the steps of the Institute just across from the State Department, and she joins us now. Good morning, Michelle. Good morning, Lola. So, Michelle, you were right there once Doge forced their way into the building. What did you see?

NPR's Michelle Kellerman spoke to him on the steps of the Institute just across from the State Department, and she joins us now. Good morning, Michelle. Good morning, Lola. So, Michelle, you were right there once Doge forced their way into the building. What did you see?

Michelle, the question I have, and I think so many people have, is, is this legal? Can the Trump administration do this? Because this isn't a government agency, right? It's a nonprofit funded by Congress.

Michelle, the question I have, and I think so many people have, is, is this legal? Can the Trump administration do this? Because this isn't a government agency, right? It's a nonprofit funded by Congress.

Michelle, the question I have, and I think so many people have, is, is this legal? Can the Trump administration do this? Because this isn't a government agency, right? It's a nonprofit funded by Congress.

So this seems to be a pattern with Doge, right? An attempt to cut funds without consulting Congress, only for it to all land in court.

So this seems to be a pattern with Doge, right? An attempt to cut funds without consulting Congress, only for it to all land in court.

So this seems to be a pattern with Doge, right? An attempt to cut funds without consulting Congress, only for it to all land in court.

That's NPR's Michelle Kellerman. Thank you, Michelle. Thank you. Today, President Trump will speak with Russian President Vladimir Putin on the phone. The U.S. is pursuing a ceasefire deal in Russia's war on Ukraine, the largest armed conflict in Europe since the Second World War.