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NPR's Franco Ordonez is here with more about how President Trump is testing his executive powers. Good morning, Franco.

So this story really blew up over the weekend. What's the controversy here?

So this story really blew up over the weekend. What's the controversy here?

So this story really blew up over the weekend. What's the controversy here?

OK, so before we talk about the legal issues, how does the White House view the politics of this issue?

OK, so before we talk about the legal issues, how does the White House view the politics of this issue?

OK, so before we talk about the legal issues, how does the White House view the politics of this issue?

So making light of this really important question of whether or not the Trump administration defied the court order, what did the Trump administration say about that?

So making light of this really important question of whether or not the Trump administration defied the court order, what did the Trump administration say about that?

So making light of this really important question of whether or not the Trump administration defied the court order, what did the Trump administration say about that?

And how does this test of Trump's power fit with other moves the administration's making?

And how does this test of Trump's power fit with other moves the administration's making?

And how does this test of Trump's power fit with other moves the administration's making?

Thanks, Franco.

Thanks, Franco.

Thanks, Franco.

That's White House correspondent Franco Ordonez. The U.S. Institute of Peace was the scene of a hostile takeover by the Department of Government Efficiency.

That's White House correspondent Franco Ordonez. The U.S. Institute of Peace was the scene of a hostile takeover by the Department of Government Efficiency.

That's White House correspondent Franco Ordonez. The U.S. Institute of Peace was the scene of a hostile takeover by the Department of Government Efficiency.

NPR's Michelle Kellerman spoke to him on the steps of the Institute just across from the State Department, and she joins us now. Good morning, Michelle. Good morning, Lola. So, Michelle, you were right there once Doge forced their way into the building. What did you see?