Leisha Redmond-McGrath

And he'd say the same to me or I'd tell him what I need.

And I might just need like an hour to go for a run or, you know, I want to go and get a massage or I want just, you know, just to have maybe, I don't know, walk, whatever it is, an hour lying in the sun on my own.

Exactly.

Take responsibility for your needs.

But I think it's, you know, the other thing with the kids are they thrive when they've mum and dad there, you know, particularly if mum and dad are working.

You know, the kids do thrive.

But at the same time, it has to be a family holiday.

It has to be a rest for everyone.

Yeah, and build relationships.

Yeah, a little bit.

And I think, you know, what holidays can provide is an opportunity to strengthen relationship.

Again, that word fun, to make memories, to curate, you know, adventures and to have things that you can talk about and bond over and really reconnect.

Because again, if you've been out at work and you've had less time with your child.

So I don't think it's about putting them into the kids club from 6am to, you know, 6pm and heading off yourself.

Like

Maybe, OK, some people do that a little bit here and there, depending on, again, your personal circumstances.

But I think it's like even to get a couple of hours, you know, where maybe the kids are in the kids club and you can go and have a nice lunch together.

Or, you know, the kids are in bed and maybe you have a meal delivered to your room and you can have a nice dinner on the balcony or something.

Or, you know, so it's trying to cultivate relationships, not just with the kids, not just with yourself, but also maybe with your partner as well.

Remembering who you are as a couple.