Lennart Heim

And eventually what I believe here is, I don't think the plan is like every country is going to like redevelop the whole tech stack and come up with their own solution.

I think eventually what I want, again, maybe I'm a little bit too much kumbaya, it would be nice if we can just get together and just say like, here are the standards, here's how the democratic world is doing AI.

And we like have these scales, right, to work on this.

And like, you're not at the whims of somebody just shutting off your AI tomorrow because they just feel like it.

I don't think that's great.

I don't think that's how we should go about it.

Right.

I mean, we made progress on these kinds of things, right?

There were certain data localization laws.

And this at least stops other governments to literally raid the data center, grab the hard drive, and take your data.

There's also encryption.

So we've got like methods to like to something to defend and like there's nothing new.

We've been doing this with different types of cloud apps, initiatives and more, right?

So that's already going on.

I think for AI we want the same.

And ideally, you just want to be part of the broader AI supply chain.

I think to some degree we're having these discussions because Europe is just like, where is Europe on the tech stack?

I see it all the way below with ASML, right?

Where they're producing the machines which produce the chips.

But across the tech stack, it looks like not that well.