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Lennart Heim

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Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
China’s catching up to US AI… Here’s why it won’t matter

Absolutely.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
China’s catching up to US AI… Here’s why it won’t matter

Yeah, I loved it to bring it up because that's actually how it got started for me.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
China’s catching up to US AI… Here’s why it won’t matter

I think in 2020, I think OpenAI put out the blog post, AI and Computing.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
China’s catching up to US AI… Here’s why it won’t matter

And they're like, look, we looked at how much computation we needed to train a system and it's doubling every 3.4 months.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
China’s catching up to US AI… Here’s why it won’t matter

I was like, wow, Moore's law is described as like the fastest exponential ever, doubling every two years.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
China’s catching up to US AI… Here’s why it won’t matter

So doubling every 3.4 months is quite, quite staggering.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
China’s catching up to US AI… Here’s why it won’t matter

And what I then did, which basically also the original story of Epoch, I found some colleagues who did like the study.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
China’s catching up to US AI… Here’s why it won’t matter

I'm like, well, actually, let's add some more systems because the original AI paper wanted like eight or 10 AI systems there and we then upgraded to a couple of hundreds.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
China’s catching up to US AI… Here’s why it won’t matter

And what we then found, okay, it's not doubling every 3.4 months anymore.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
China’s catching up to US AI… Here’s why it won’t matter

It's doubling every six months.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
China’s catching up to US AI… Here’s why it won’t matter

That's still crazy, right?

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
China’s catching up to US AI… Here’s why it won’t matter

Crossing like multiple orders of magnitude over the last few years.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
China’s catching up to US AI… Here’s why it won’t matter

Again, going from two GPUs to 200,000 or going from like spending a couple of hundred bucks on computation pointers to literally millions, potentially in the future, billions.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
China’s catching up to US AI… Here’s why it won’t matter

And why are people doing this?

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
China’s catching up to US AI… Here’s why it won’t matter

Well, because the systems get better.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
China’s catching up to US AI… Here’s why it won’t matter

It's not like we want to burn money, right?

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
China’s catching up to US AI… Here’s why it won’t matter

It's just like we train big AI systems, train in more data.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
China’s catching up to US AI… Here’s why it won’t matter

And if you do this, you just require more computing power.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
China’s catching up to US AI… Here’s why it won’t matter

And this has just been what's been called scaling loss.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
China’s catching up to US AI… Here’s why it won’t matter

And this has been, I think, the easiest way to describe AI progress over the last decade.