Lenny Rachitsky

One is, okay, I am not going to let this happen to my company.

Like this is other people, they're weak, maybe they're of loose values.

The other is just like, do I really need to do this?

There's so many companies that are killing it.

I don't think they've done any of this.

Why do I even need to pay attention to this?

So maybe let's start with that first one of this idea of,

And this is a core thesis of your book.

This is not like an ethical values thing.

This is a structural element of building businesses in the US.

I'm excited to talk about what to do with these governance elements, but let's talk about this other critique that I imagine people have in their head of just like, is this like, you know, like, okay, I need to figure out product market fit first.

Yeah, yeah, I worry about it later.

Exactly.

There's so much more I need to do.

Like the chances of this working are so low.

Why am I, I have no time for anything else.

Oh, totally.

Damn, that hit me right in the heart.

And it's so obvious just how personal and important this is to you.

It's clear you've just seen this happen again and again.