Lenny Rachitsky

There's sounds like Lean, Cloud.

Is there anything else that's interesting maybe some people may not think about?

What do you, where do you build this agent?

What's the platform to use?

Sweet.

Okay.

I'll take us to another recurring corner on the podcast, contrarian corner.

What's something that you believe that a lot of other people don't believe?

What's kind of a contrarian take about anything that comes to mind?

Yeah, and just so we don't need to go too down this path, but it's so hard for the AI labs, I think, to on the one hand be like, okay, this is really dangerous if it gets much smarter and we need people to know this because this is happening and moving quickly.

On the other hand, how do you not just freak everyone out and make everyone so afraid of where things are going?

It's like, well, how do you, what do you do?

What's the right thing for them to do?

And because of all that, of that doom and gloom, it's like, I'm sure you've seen these surveys, AI is like below ice in terms of popularity and

and like below like Iran it's like and this isn't going great I don't know I don't know what I would do if I were left and I love I guess that's like a benefit of Snapchat is it makes like you guys have been in AI from for a very long time and it shows you the playfulness of it all and you know it doesn't have to be that serious anyway with that Evan we reached our very exciting lightning round I've got five questions for you are you ready let's give it a shot

Okay.

What are two or three books that you find yourself recommending most to other people?

I've not seen it yet.

I keep hearing amazing things.

Next question.