Lenny Rachitsky

And I was going to get to this later.

But we can talk about this now this big investment you've been putting into hardware, like you would think network effects would be the mode.

That's what everybody's always trying to get to because that's classically a great mode.

Are you saying that that's maybe not even as great a mode or that's just not enough?

And then you need something more like say hardware?

It's so interesting.

Like if you think about it, you're working on two of the hardest types of businesses, a consumer social platform and hardware.

And I love that you're doing that.

And this hardware investment, you've been at it for a long time there.

You had spectacles, you had drones.

I don't think people remember you had this drone that could take photos of you.

And then you have specs coming out.

Is it specs or spectacles?

The name of what's coming out today, by the way.

Specs.

Okay, cool.

We're going to talk about it, but just maybe you've already answered it, why this is something you're so passionate about, but why this kind of ongoing investment in hardware?

So I got an early preview of the specs and it's extremely cool.

I learned how to be an airbender.

I put plants all over my house, drawing all over the place.