Lenval Logan

Could this, you know, every time we discussed the first thing was, could this be a foreign power?

And what do the foreign powers have that could come to this capability?

And, you know, we're going down the checklist.

Can't be that one.

Can't be that one.

Well, you know, I've heard about this.

Well, let's do some research on that.

And then you come back and you go, it's not that one.

So at the end of the day, we were coming down to the list and we're getting down on the short list and you're like, I got nobody.

So could this be it?

Yeah.

Other.

And saying other is like touching the third rail on a rail track.

You know, you got to be very careful how you use that word.

Very, very.

It got so frustrating because you don't know...

When you ask for help, if that guy knows his stuff or if that guy's junior, whatever.

I remember at one point I was so upset because this thing was clearly weird looking and acting weird or whatever.

And they gave me a very prosaic answer.

And I remember calling Jay up and I said, permission to treat this organization as a hostile organization.