Leon Nafok

Because honestly, they don't have an incentive to optimize it.

Yeah, they're already bringing in

billions of dollars just with what they have so if someone if it's hard for users on the creator or the subscriber side they're like all right figure it out um so i think that's probably why mixed with whether this is intentional or unintentional on the on the side of only fans there is something that makes it feel special by not having an fyp right you're like

oh, I heard my coworker has an OnlyFans or like, I wonder if this influencer has an OnlyFans and you actually have to go there because in my anecdotal experience, subscribers are not there to just be like, I am going to follow someone new.

They usually have, you know, one to three creators that they really like that they found through another channel, whether it's TikTok or Instagram or Reddit or whatever.

And they, that's really what they're there for.

Yeah, we're all OnlyFans creators and

And we're all whores.

And if anyone, as someone who gets called a whore online all the time, you are selling your mind and body every day to make money.

So I just want you guys to know, everyone in here, unless you're living off your parents' money, which is a different kind of whore.

But I want to say as far as the marketing, this is my first podcast project, which I got incredibly lucky about.

All of my other podcast friends hated me.

But I'm a stand-up comedian and so I am, for better or worse, very used to that relentless marketing grind.

But a lot of creators we talk to kind of look back on their earlier days and realize, oh my God, so much of this is marketing.

It's more than creating the actual content and chatting to people.

It's like trying to go viral on Instagram, on TikTok.

It's posting, you know, I spoke with an agency and they were like, if you're already posting, like come back and talk to us when you're posting five times a day on TikTok, just on TikTok.

So I know it's, and I mean, they're little things.

They're not, these are not, you know, it's just like, I'm doing a dance or like cinnamon challenge or whatever.

But so that is when, and this is something we can get into later, but that is...