Leslie Carpenter

And that's where we still have work to do because once we get that to be understood, then it's easier to get these systems to work together better to get somebody treatment. And even if the person is charged and found guilty and placed into incarceration, they still deserve to get treatment while they're there.

And that's where we still have work to do because once we get that to be understood, then it's easier to get these systems to work together better to get somebody treatment. And even if the person is charged and found guilty and placed into incarceration, they still deserve to get treatment while they're there.

And that's where we still have work to do because once we get that to be understood, then it's easier to get these systems to work together better to get somebody treatment. And even if the person is charged and found guilty and placed into incarceration, they still deserve to get treatment while they're there.

And the opportunity to do things to help make it easier if they get back out, if and when they get back out so that they aren't just released from a jail or a prison with no connection to treatment because that doesn't help anybody.

And the opportunity to do things to help make it easier if they get back out, if and when they get back out so that they aren't just released from a jail or a prison with no connection to treatment because that doesn't help anybody.

And the opportunity to do things to help make it easier if they get back out, if and when they get back out so that they aren't just released from a jail or a prison with no connection to treatment because that doesn't help anybody.

It does. So much of it is education.

It does. So much of it is education.

It does. So much of it is education.

I agree. There's not. There's not enough. How do we do it? We get ourselves invited to professional conferences of various types, get ourselves to judicial commissions, get ourselves to the attorneys association meetings, get ourselves to provider meetings and conferences. It is a huge amount of work that will take many different people coming together to work toward that.

I agree. There's not. There's not enough. How do we do it? We get ourselves invited to professional conferences of various types, get ourselves to judicial commissions, get ourselves to the attorneys association meetings, get ourselves to provider meetings and conferences. It is a huge amount of work that will take many different people coming together to work toward that.

I agree. There's not. There's not enough. How do we do it? We get ourselves invited to professional conferences of various types, get ourselves to judicial commissions, get ourselves to the attorneys association meetings, get ourselves to provider meetings and conferences. It is a huge amount of work that will take many different people coming together to work toward that.

And not necessarily all in the same way, but we all need to be working on it.

And not necessarily all in the same way, but we all need to be working on it.

And not necessarily all in the same way, but we all need to be working on it.

Correct, yeah. And wearing my Iowa mental health advocacy hat, I have been speaking for several years now during the crisis intervention team trainings that happen here locally in our county. I've also started doing it at other counties through the state. And I will tell you that there are a lot of mental health

Correct, yeah. And wearing my Iowa mental health advocacy hat, I have been speaking for several years now during the crisis intervention team trainings that happen here locally in our county. I've also started doing it at other counties through the state. And I will tell you that there are a lot of mental health

Correct, yeah. And wearing my Iowa mental health advocacy hat, I have been speaking for several years now during the crisis intervention team trainings that happen here locally in our county. I've also started doing it at other counties through the state. And I will tell you that there are a lot of mental health

Advocates, especially the moms of people with severe mental illness and peers who live with illnesses who go out and speak at these trainings to help give them both the patient and family perspective to provide that very education. Now, thankfully, there's a lot of crisis intervention team training going on around the country as well as having mental health responders or co-responders.

Advocates, especially the moms of people with severe mental illness and peers who live with illnesses who go out and speak at these trainings to help give them both the patient and family perspective to provide that very education. Now, thankfully, there's a lot of crisis intervention team training going on around the country as well as having mental health responders or co-responders.