Leslie Liao

We were working on the business side.

I heard an ad on a radio station, and I had this weird idea that maybe they were running this ad.

It said, come apply to work at this particular radio station that was running the ad.

And I thought, oh, maybe they want some people to be on air.

so i applied i got an interview when i walked in the door i thought maybe i was going to be like you know go on air right away and the lady was like that's not for on air it's for a business job and i was like oh okay i'll take that so i can literally suck the ass of whoever i need to to get on air at least i was in the building and so i took the opposite approach to you i made it known far and wide that what i wanted to do was commandeer their airwaves and

Yes, they let me do it for like three months between 3 a.m.

and 6 a.m.

in the morning where no one heard me.

I'm not sure that my parents or my wife would say that.

And I'm not sure my mortgage company says that, but listen, that's beside the point.

Starving artist runs in my bones.

Um, but I know, and I'm with you and I understand this.

It's like, you want, you didn't want to be seen as the person who got the job at Netflix.

So you could get on Netflix.

You wanted to be seen on your own merits on its own time in a way that was organic and outside the lake, the circle of business that you had to do inside of the building.

So, uh,

So when does that actually happen?

Do you say, hey, boss, come check me out?

Yeah, we just learned that lesson last year.

And it was the best lesson we ever learned.