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Lester Holt

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Dateline NBC
An urgent manhunt in Ohio. A widow stands trial a third time. Plus, a deep dive on arson investigations.

And one of the big things that had really stood out to them is that their dad, since he had married Susan, seemed to be getting sicker and sicker.

Dateline NBC
An urgent manhunt in Ohio. A widow stands trial a third time. Plus, a deep dive on arson investigations.

Can you walk us through the timeline?

Dateline NBC
An urgent manhunt in Ohio. A widow stands trial a third time. Plus, a deep dive on arson investigations.

Yeah.

Dateline NBC
An urgent manhunt in Ohio. A widow stands trial a third time. Plus, a deep dive on arson investigations.

So about a month or two into their relationship, Jake had a heart attack and Susan became his caregiver.

Dateline NBC
An urgent manhunt in Ohio. A widow stands trial a third time. Plus, a deep dive on arson investigations.

She was handling his meals.

Dateline NBC
An urgent manhunt in Ohio. A widow stands trial a third time. Plus, a deep dive on arson investigations.

And then from that point on, Jake's children said he started complaining about nausea, diarrhea, constant vomiting, and even sudden seizures.

Dateline NBC
An urgent manhunt in Ohio. A widow stands trial a third time. Plus, a deep dive on arson investigations.

But the real turning point in the case came when Rachel, Jake's daughter, gave her dad's hairbrush to a private investigator.

Dateline NBC
An urgent manhunt in Ohio. A widow stands trial a third time. Plus, a deep dive on arson investigations.

And that investigator handed it off to the DA's office, who submitted it to a crime lab for testing.

Dateline NBC
An urgent manhunt in Ohio. A widow stands trial a third time. Plus, a deep dive on arson investigations.

What did the lab find or determine?

Dateline NBC
An urgent manhunt in Ohio. A widow stands trial a third time. Plus, a deep dive on arson investigations.

The results came back and showed several toxic chemicals in his hair sample, things like DEET, antifreeze, arsenic, and other heavy metals.

Dateline NBC
An urgent manhunt in Ohio. A widow stands trial a third time. Plus, a deep dive on arson investigations.

And in the first trial, the prosecutor said that Susan was poisoning Jake by putting the chemicals into his food since she was the one giving him all of his meals.

Dateline NBC
An urgent manhunt in Ohio. A widow stands trial a third time. Plus, a deep dive on arson investigations.

What did the defense say about it?

Dateline NBC
An urgent manhunt in Ohio. A widow stands trial a third time. Plus, a deep dive on arson investigations.

The defense really attacked the credibility of the hairbrush evidence.

Dateline NBC
An urgent manhunt in Ohio. A widow stands trial a third time. Plus, a deep dive on arson investigations.

They zeroed in on concerns over chain of custody because it was found by Jake's daughter, Rachel.

Dateline NBC
An urgent manhunt in Ohio. A widow stands trial a third time. Plus, a deep dive on arson investigations.

And they also argued that Jake could have been exposed to those chemicals in a number of ways, such as being a heavy smoker or working on cars, things like that.

Dateline NBC
An urgent manhunt in Ohio. A widow stands trial a third time. Plus, a deep dive on arson investigations.

Lots of things to consider.

Dateline NBC
An urgent manhunt in Ohio. A widow stands trial a third time. Plus, a deep dive on arson investigations.

But obviously, the jury at Susan's first trial bought the poison theory and convicted her.

Dateline NBC
An urgent manhunt in Ohio. A widow stands trial a third time. Plus, a deep dive on arson investigations.

But since her conviction was overturned, things have become a little more complicated, right?

Dateline NBC
An urgent manhunt in Ohio. A widow stands trial a third time. Plus, a deep dive on arson investigations.

Yes.

Dateline NBC
An urgent manhunt in Ohio. A widow stands trial a third time. Plus, a deep dive on arson investigations.

So that has been a huge twist in this case.