Lester Holt

What would be the next thing then that would happen in the clan?

I would feel like I was forced into a lot of that stuff.

How did she receive that?

When you're like, I kind of want to do this.

Not very good.

Call me a f***ing pussy.

You know, thought you were going to take care of us.

Things like that.

Where was it at when you picked it up?

In the driveway.

What vehicle did you drive over there to pick the gun up?

Correct.

This is f***ing dumb.

What are we doing?

Once she committed to a path which wasn't coming clean about her relationship with Houston Danker, it was too late.

You know, if she would have come forward and said, this is what was going on, this might have been a different result.

And it actually made me go back and think about everything, every conversation I'd ever had with her.

This is hard for me to say.

I think as Karina aged, she wasn't mentally stable, I guess.

Now, don't get me wrong, she was a smart woman, but I believe she thought she could actually get away with this.