Lester Holt

They weren't yelling or didn't seem to be treating him badly, but they were kind of persistent that, hey, we think something's going on here.

You know, we think you know where your dad is.

And they'd keep just peppering him with that.

And it's only after a while they reach this point of frustration where they just come out and drop it.

Hey, we've got your dad.

Your dad's dead.

He's a former military intelligence officer, has a lot of experience in interrogations, and two things he pointed out.

One is that the lie was counterproductive in this case.

And the length of time that he was in the interrogation room was counterproductive.

And his whole point is about trust.

You've got to earn the trust with a suspect if you want to get anywhere.

that they committed the crime.

I love the way he talked about the false memories there because I think Dan and Keith, I think we really see it when he's in that interrogation room and he starts to

offer what they call a confession, he later says they were kind of directing the action.

They were kind of creating, and he was filling in holes.

So I looked at that, and to this day, I still wonder, was that really a confession as we think of it?

I think that's right.

And you're in an interrogation room.

It's something that it's a...

picture that's indelible on many a person's brain.