Lester Holt

Yeah, his daughter was in Northern California.

You know, I only take from that is he was, you know... I don't know.

Actually, that's a good question.

I've been trying to piece that one together.

I think that was again in that...

area of where he was trying to be helpful and and they're thinking it's a you know in the lake perhaps but he's like well no it would it would it would be floating if that was the case um but again really ill-advised kind of a conversation to have with police if you didn't do it weird right i think lester's description of it is exactly right knowing this guy the way we met him it's just kind of like well he can't be here right because somebody's float but he was just like

Wow.

I don't know why they would want to, but I don't have an answer to that question.

I mean, I think they can lie to anybody.

I don't know either.

Yeah.

I don't know.

Unless you think that, you know,

The victim is in on it somehow.

But, yeah, I can't think of a circumstance.

Yeah.

I remember when Dan and I were planning this and I said, I had to wrap my head around the idea that there's no crime.

That, you know, what the police did, whether you like it or not, was legal.

that clearly there was no murder since the alleged victim was alive and well.

You're right.