Lewis Bollard

I think there are two possible trajectories we could go down.

One is the trajectory that we have been on for the last century, which is technology has made factory farming ever more efficient, resulted in ever more animals being abused in ever more intensive ways.

Yeah.

there is a trajectory where we reduce the number of animals on factory farms, where we reduce the suffering of each of those animals.

So even if we get AGI, I am really optimistic that that will accelerate forms of technological progress.

It will bring us better alternative proteins.

It will improve the humane technology.

But there are still huge cultural and political obstacles to alternatives.

So the cultural obstacles are that most people want real meat.

I mean, most people have the option already of plant-based meat that tastes about as good as real meat.

That's it.

I don't know.

So this is the debate.

That's fair.

This is a debate.

But I don't think that's just the obstacle that people have.

I think there are a lot of people who say, I'm just not interested in the alternative.

I want the real thing.

And then there's also the political obstacle.

So let's say that AGI solves cultivated meat for us.