Lewis Goodall

Well, he talks about...

said that they're going to nationalise British steel.

OK, it's true to say that when that was taken into public ownership, that was one of the more popular things the Labour government has done.

Of course, it doesn't in the long term really explain what's going to happen to that asset and how it's going to be made profitable and so on, but sure.

As you say, he said that he would take the Labour Party to the heart of Europe, but he didn't explain how.

Because, of course, again, it circles back to that thing, which is to say he says no more incrementalism within the confines of his red lines, which he put in the Labour manifesto.

I'm not saying they're wrong, by the way, but they are the red lines that are there.

All that can be done is incremental, technical, instrumental change.

So that's in the red wall, I think, who would be.

Deeply, deeply suspicious of the idea, because, you know, is the Labour Party's response to what we just saw where Nigel Farage is on the march again to turn around and go, OK, well, what we need to do is reopen.

Well, I mean, I absolutely agree that that argument has not been made sufficiently strongly.

And it was the strongest part of the speech, because ironically enough, that was the bit where the prime minister was taking his own advice, providing a story, providing an argument and speaking in the sorts of primary colours that his opponents do.

The problem is, is that that has happened, as you say, Emily, all too infrequently up to now, as Linton Crosby, the president.

great conservative strategist used to say you can't fatten the pig on market day and you've got to make those arguments for a long time before you get to the point where you're able to offer and convince people not do or die day exactly quite so exactly and look I think that where we are now I think in terms of um

kind of what the prime minister is saying, is he's right in that he identifies, he absolutely correctly identifies that politics in the late 2020s is different.

It's different to anything that we've seen before or certainly for a long time.

It is absolutely a fight among those who would seek to change the character of our democracy and who certainly speak, I think it's fair to say again, in primary colours.

He's right again that the stakes are very high

And that he's right, that if those stakes, if the Labour Party, or if you might, for want of a better expression, mainstream parties don't win that fight, we could be going down a very dark path.

But ironically enough, in setting it out in that way, he has reminded his own MPs of precisely the reason why so many are minded to remove him.