Lewis Goodall

So Sadiq Khan, I think the funny thing, Emily, about that interview or about kind of where Khan is, is that I think we kind of basically just heard the kind of median position of most of the Labour Party right now, certainly at parliamentary level, which is that you could hear it from Khan.

You know, it's clear that he does not think like most of the Labour Party do.

that Starmer should lead them into the next election.

I think it is clear that they think it would be better if he were to go soon-ish, i.e.

he kept saying that essentially it's all very well doing this, but you need to have a plan.

And by plan, what we keep hearing and seeing from MPs is really, I think, the optimal position for a lot of these MPs

is that this were to be done and dusted by September.

And what would, of course, September allow you to do?

And we can hear it from Carl and his enthusiasm, a bit of a friend of Andy Burnham, that that would give enough time for Andy Burnham to get back into Parliament.

I'm not sure it would... It ain't incremental.

Right, well, we will be back tomorrow, presumably with the same Prime Minister.

Who knows?

That's the excitement.

We'll see you then.

Keir Starmer, for whatever reason, is despised by the public of this country, by much of the population.

He is despised.

And that is a really terrible place for a sitting prime minister to be.

Farage has been around for a long time.

He's had lots of different political outfits, lots of different political incarnations.

It's Little Lewis.