Lewis

Mark Rutter is responsible for NATO.

Yeah.

And and and so he can't possibly do really, in fairness to Rutter, really what what what Charles has done, because the stakes are so much lower for Charles, because all it really is is symbolism and pageantry.

But there's no negotiations with Charles.

They're not trying to get any deal or anything like that.

There's no point of friction.

Whereas with all of the others, there's points of friction and difficulty and not easy to work through.

But we've exhausted it now, haven't we?

We've played though.

If we accept that these royal exchanges and state visits make a difference, and as I say, I'm not sure that it does really.

Yeah, okay.

So what are we going to end up with?

The Duke of Gloucester?

Princess Anne?

How far are we going to go down the list?

You know, this is going to... We've already played the state visit card in both directions.

There's got to be a law of diminishing returns with this.

And like I say, I'm not even sure what the return is, really.

There we go.

Well, honestly, I think there may be some political elites who do.