Lex Fridman

But from their perspective, also there is a majesty and magic to the technological world.

The human-created nature

technological world of the pen and the computer and the light bulb that too is magical so sometimes we don't give enough credit to both the the magic of the technological world all the incredible things humans have been able to build and uh the magic of the natural world i mean what we've been able to achieve i think you and i and people that spend

There's a deep optimism to that.

And you actually write in a book, which I really like, I think somewhere in the beginning, quote, given all the death and destruction I've witnessed, it would be easy to slip into the popular anti-human narrative that we are a plague on the planet and there's nothing that can be done.

But my career in conservation has given me a glimpse into an alternate narrative.

I've met people who are proving more and more that something can be done.

I'm talking about real heroes.

People who have dedicated their lives to redeeming the evil that is capable of being waged by the human soul.

People who are guarding the flame amidst the storm, proving every day what so many have forgotten.

there is still hope.

And that speaks against sort of the cynicism and maybe apathy and the view that humans are a destructive force in the world.

That speaks to the fact that humans, with all the technological elements that we have created, can actually do a lot of good.

I wrote in my notes here a quote from the great Jane Goodall, the greatest danger to our future is apathy.

So caring about the world, having an optimism for the world, having a hope for the world is the way to...

help have an impact, help save it.

But on that, I have to ask you about Jane.

She passed away on October 1st.

Some humans in this human civilization of ours can open our eyes to the beauty of the world, and she is one of the best of them.

And she's had an impact on your life.