Lex Fridman

When you lead a team of over 1,000 people to make a masterpiece like GTA V or Red Dead Redemption 2, how do you ensure that the bar of perfection is always met?

How is that even possible?

We know the answer isn't money because there's other studios with a lot of money and they are two decades behind Rockstar.

So what does it take?

To create these worlds, to create these incredibly compelling games.

Navi Kansari, an award-winning director and virtual reality game maker who worked with you on a number of Grand Theft Auto games, spoke highly about his time working with you.

Quote, we always worked ourselves to the bone, but it wasn't coming from the top down.

Sam and Dan always rolled up their sleeves, and they were always there.

They never left us holding the bag.

We all thought we were making badass shit, so it didn't matter how hard we worked.

So I'm sure there were some tough grinds.

And that's such a heavy thing about the human experience.

I've talked to Olympic gold winners and many of them face real depression after they win the gold medal.

because they've been pursuing a thing that they deeply care about.

This has been everything, and they are truly happy to do it, and then it's like, what else is there in life?

Compared to this, what else is there?

That's the ups and downs of life.

You need the darkness, you need the lows to really experience the highs.

Let me ask you about the pressure.

There's an insane level of excitement and expectation for Grand Theft Auto 6.