Lex Fridman

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One of them, doesn't this mean that at scale, you can have something like a government use propaganda to mass gaslight a population?

So implant false memories using AI, using whatever tools they have.

That's terrifying.

Is there anything you've learned about defending against that?

Yeah.

I guess knowing that first step is just knowing that it's possible.

That's already a very powerful piece of knowledge.

Yeah, you use the analogy of a Wikipedia page for memory.

I think it's a pretty useful way to think about it.

It's kind of crowdsourced by all the different influences you have, all the different experiences, all the other people, you telling other people about the memory, all of that edits the page, the Wikipedia page of your memory.

Right, but there's conflicting forces here, so that's true, but also, as you said, it's true that together you can weave a narrative that never happened.

So together you can solidify the thing that actually happened, maybe if you take notes beforehand.

But at the same time, if you don't take notes, then you can just make shit up very effectively together, because you're like yes-anding the whole time.

Like building together a castle that's false.

Distorted.

Have you seen like different versions of memory and they're really conflicting?

Like what have you learned about memory from that?

That they can be very conflicting people explaining the same experience and it's very different.

This is so fascinating.