Liam Amarku

So I would see them transferring all the files that they needed to run their fraud.

I could see them Google searching for images or for text that they were going to use.

I could see them setting up email campaigns.

I was analyzing the malware and I knew where they were connecting and I could see where they were connecting all over the world.

And I was like, I can't do anything about this, but I know law enforcement could go and they could get these things.

servers and these computers and these addresses and they could actually take action on them.

So we went searching for law enforcement who would work with us on this case and we had a long list of all of the things that the attackers were doing.

And that was how we ended up contacting the FBI.

I reached out to some people who were about to become victims because I was able to see their information as the auction was in progress.

And I saw their telephone number and I called them and I said, you are being victimized.

I'm calling you.

I'm not trying to sell you anything.

I'm telling you now you're about to get scammed because of this auction.

And they wouldn't believe me.

They would think I was trying to scam them and then they would go ahead and I would see that they had continued and they had bought the fraudulent car even though I had actually warned them.

It is very interesting that what we were doing was we were waiting for their one slip-up.

We were getting mountains and mountains of data, and we knew that they were protecting themselves, but they couldn't be right all the time.

It's so, so difficult to be right all the time and to have fail-safes everywhere.

And eventually, they did make those tiny, tiny slip-ups.

It was like one 10-second period out of three years of monitoring data that broke the case.