Liam Halligan

I'm here to say I do want a much cleaner environment.

I do think it makes sense over a period of time to move away from fossil fuels.

I do believe in renewable forms of energy being better for the world.

I think wind is the least efficient.

I believe in hydrogen.

I think that's a wonder fuel that we are deliberately suppressing.

Vested interests who are making a huge amount of money out of renewables subsidies are deliberately dissing hydrogen as a viable option.

JCB have just built an incredible internal combustion engine that runs on hydrogen.

the only emission of which is water, right?

And if you use renewable winds to do the electrolysis that generates the hydrogen in industrial quantities, and then you use that hydrogen and it emits water, you have perpetual clean energy, right?

And that will really undermine the businesses of lots of people.

That's why it's so little talked about, but I believe in that.

So I'm by no means not interested in this agenda.

But what I would say is that unless this net zero agenda, which was introduced in the UK and so many other countries with no debate, it was put into law, it was waved through parliament, just a handful of MPs protested against it, unless it starts delivering

pretty soon for people in terms of cheaper energy bills and doing less damage to people who are least able to shoulder that economic damage, then the political consensus behind it is going to be crushed.

So take, for instance,

electric vehicles.

You know, we have in the UK the most stringent electric vehicle introduction laws in Europe, even more stringent than in the EU, even though we've left the EU.

And at the moment now, I talk to lots of people in the car industry, or they talk to me because they can't get a hearing with many other journalists, you know, very senior people in the car industry, and they are now saying this is going to completely wreck Britain's entire car industry, which employs a million people.

Right.