Liam Paro

He was at the time because he cared for me.

He didn't want to see me go down the wrong path and...

Yeah.

No, exactly right.

Exactly, 100%.

It goes down to a small percentage of being able to make enough to make a living off.

I'm very glad that I've been able to get to that level.

Honestly, I've got to thank a lot of sponsors too to help me get there to that level.

I've still got some big sponsors.

Look, honestly, at the end of the day, it's just the kindness out of their hearts.

Especially at the start with the small platform, you're fighting in pubs and little halls and you really can't give back.

You obviously put their logo on the trunks, but you're not even getting televised or nothing like that.

No.

For what they're giving you, you really can't give back to them.

It's just...

It's just good-hearted people wanting to help you succeed.

You know what I mean?

I was still laboring.

And then being able to go full-time, I think in 2018, I was working for a company called Oxworks.

I was working for them.