Liam Toland

He's relentless on getting on the ball, on hunting down and chasing dead rabbits and still coming out with something.

He'll be a huge loss, but there's a logic of a James Lowe starting, and the advantage then, he does give you that kicking game as well.

I think Frawley has to be on the bench, and he has to come on at 10, like the obvious other

players are are Prendergast now if Leinster find themselves 15 points down I think Prendergast is the type of player if he came off the bench could actually affect a positive change but I think Frawley is just too good and he can play on the game line he can force the game he's he's not massively dissimilar to Harry Byrne but I think Frawley has to be on the bench then

There's a lot of unknown unknowns there.

Once Tammy Bryan is either declared in or out, it sets its own agenda, doesn't it?

Well, I think that the culture of what Leo Cullen has achieved, not just him, but other players over the last decade or so, this is a very different team that started off the journey of professionalism in the mid-90s.

I think that they set such high standards themselves.

I think they're going to be hurting hugely.

I think they're aware of their legacy.

I think there's players that are beginning to get to that age where getting to a European Cup final isn't an automatic, and I think there's an awful lot on the line.

I think the fact that they've had to scrape

through the season.

They had a very tricky, you know, the lie after the lions tour, we were all predicting six months ago, how this is going to be a really brutal season, especially for Leinster.

But yet there they are second in the URC and in the European cup final.

And I think the fact that they've had to scrape and bite and fight their way to where they are, I think was a huge advantage.

The flip side of that is Bordeaux had to beat Lester to lose and bat to get to the final Leinster had sale Edinburgh and Toulon

like Bardo have come through a harder journey.

They're more proven.

So there's still those unknown unknowns about Leinster.