Libby Emmons

Just imagine, right?

That's the 1986 liberal dream, you know?

Well, and then we get rid of the extremes on both sides.

We're back to something sort of where the crazy people are fringy and everybody else is just sort of middle of the road and we have forever wars forever.

Right, because the idea is to push those people far into the fringes.

So that they could go back to the situation of, like—

you know, George Bush versus Al Gore, two candidates who both would have ended up going into Afghanistan.

You know, Obama, George Bush, both ended up going into Afghanistan.

You know, I don't think based on the results of what happened in Afghanistan, I think we fouled it up really pretty badly.

And if you had looked at the history of wars in Afghanistan, Russia can't, no one can win wars in Afghanistan.

There's no point in that.

Yeah.

It's always going to be different if we win.

But we keep not winning.

Sure, sure, sure.

I mean, I was talking to a columnist today who was going on about like Trump should just say we win in Iran and leave.

Like just say we win as though like saying we win and winning are the exact same thing because we're in a post-structuralist political age.

Sure.

I mean, Obama campaigned on we're going to go even harder into Afghanistan and make everything worse.

And now, having voted for Trump, believing he was going to not start wars, I know exactly how those people felt.