Lieutenant Dave Messmore

He called me back later and said, we're going to remove Collier and put him in an approved home to stay with some people. I said, good. That's exactly what I want. I didn't trust Jack at all.

He called me back later and said, we're going to remove Collier and put him in an approved home to stay with some people. I said, good. That's exactly what I want. I didn't trust Jack at all.

So I called up there in Erie, and I said, look, here's what I've got. And I said, I'm very, very interested in getting in that new house. And they said, oh boy, you have any more than that?

So I called up there in Erie, and I said, look, here's what I've got. And I said, I'm very, very interested in getting in that new house. And they said, oh boy, you have any more than that?

That is something that sticks in your mind. Why would he want to lower the basement? What was he going to do?

That is something that sticks in your mind. Why would he want to lower the basement? What was he going to do?

And they said, we have a judge that we will take this to. The judge had been a former prosecutor, and he went, there you go.

And they said, we have a judge that we will take this to. The judge had been a former prosecutor, and he went, there you go.

My captain was not behind me. The day that I got ready to serve a search warrant, Captain said, what are you doing? I told him what I was doing. He said, you got to be kidding. I said, no. He said, you really think that a doctor would kill somebody and take the body up to the area of Pennsylvania? I said, I don't know, but I'm going to find out.

My captain was not behind me. The day that I got ready to serve a search warrant, Captain said, what are you doing? I told him what I was doing. He said, you got to be kidding. I said, no. He said, you really think that a doctor would kill somebody and take the body up to the area of Pennsylvania? I said, I don't know, but I'm going to find out.

He said, you're going to embarrass the police department. I said, I don't care who he is. It has to be done.

He said, you're going to embarrass the police department. I said, I don't care who he is. It has to be done.

Disgusted and insulted for what he did to his family. The way he treated Collier, it was with a lot of disdain.

Disgusted and insulted for what he did to his family. The way he treated Collier, it was with a lot of disdain.

The weather was bad. It was snowing and everything. So we drove up there through six inches of snow, and it got worse and worse.

The weather was bad. It was snowing and everything. So we drove up there through six inches of snow, and it got worse and worse.

You couldn't convince me there was anything more bizarre than this. I was not prepared to dismiss any viable theory.

You couldn't convince me there was anything more bizarre than this. I was not prepared to dismiss any viable theory.

I had an inclination to do things that maybe I wouldn't have done in other cases. Some people don't have any faith, and I have faith. I think God does lead you in the right directions a lot of times.

I had an inclination to do things that maybe I wouldn't have done in other cases. Some people don't have any faith, and I have faith. I think God does lead you in the right directions a lot of times.