Lily James Olds

Hi, Patricia.

Welcome.

I'm so looking forward to speaking with you today.

Hello, Lily.

Okay, so I have to start with this.

You call yourself a bacteria trainer, a term I've never heard used before, and I'm guessing I'm not the only one.

What does that actually mean?

Tell us how you work with bacteria.

You know, I think one of the things that stood out to me when we were talking before is that obviously a lot of us have known for years that recycling, sadly, isn't that effective.

But it surprised me to hear you explain how recycling actually requires the use of more virgin or new plastic production, which of course seems totally counterproductive to the point of recycling in the first place.

And, you know, you called that, I think, the perfect illusion of sustainability.

Can you tell me a little bit more about how your company is doing things differently?

I mean, those stats on recycling are, that's just wild and depressing.

You know, I feel like some might be hearing that and thinking, what's the point of recycling to begin with?

And I know you and your company are doing things differently, but can you speak to that?

Right.

And you talk about this earlier too, right?

How do we start to shift the responsibility to the companies that manufacture the plastic unsustainably to begin with?

And I guess specifically, what feels actually possible right now?

How many other companies are doing what you're doing?